Oh, one other thing, which I forgot earlier, which is based on experience. It may be in the documentation somewhere but I've missed it. If you are using email to maintain a filelist GET listname FILELIST (CTL NOLOCK PW=xxxxxxxx will not work, as there is a space missing and LISTSERV assumes the password is another, unknown, option. Two spaces betweeen the last option and the password are required. That doesn't apply to standard puts, etc. where you have no options. For those one space is fine. Douglas Winship Austin, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner