On Mon, 5 Dec 1994 15:13:17 -0400 Terry Oakes <[log in to unmask]> said: >Are other listowners registering their listnames as trademarks and the >lists as patents and what are the legal ramifications. I think you'd have a hard time registering a list name as a trademark. First of all, you're talking about flushing a couple thousand dollars down the drain, unless you do everything on your own, and with something so atypical I wouldn't be surprised if you had trouble figuring out how to connect all the legal pipes together. Then you're going to have to describe the kind of business the trademark is used for and give the date of the first inter-state or international sale. No sale, no trademark. Trademarks are supposed to be used for business, and you're not supposed to be able to register a trademark and then not use it, just to prevent others from using that word. So while I don't expect any problem with registering a list name associated with a commercial offering (ie you have to pay to be on the list), it would appear difficult to register a free list. Actually, you'd be better of registering a service mark in that case. Registering a list as a patent... I don't see how you could do that. What is it you'd want to patent? The idea of starting a list for professionals in the XYZ field? I doubt you could convince the PTO that this isn't "trivial", since just about everyone does that. Eric