If a listowner gets exactly the same output with GET listname FILELIST (CTL NOL PW=XXXXXXX as with INDEX listname (no *+ FAC= whatever , no /F/ listname FILELIST ALL FAC V . . . . this file , the notebooks are included) the listserv isn't properly established, is it? If the PW isn't included in GET... (CTL NOL one gets an error message despite the fact that the output, when the PW is included, is identical to that from INDEX listname. What needs to be done? Can the listowner take this output, edit it to what it should be and PUT it back? If so, should the notebooks be edited out or left in? Should use the (PUTC option ? The list is running 1.7f and the LISTSERV postmaster doesn't have much experience with LISTSERV. Douglas Winship Austin, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner