On Tue, 17 Jan 1995 12:27:59 EST Mike Ramundo <[log in to unmask]> said: >As someone who does both (secondary) listowner and postmast tasks from >the same ID, I constantly have problems with the FOR phrase in commands >- >if I am acting as postmast for one of my users at a remote site, the FOR >phrase MUST come first, otherwise it seems my ID is checked against the >owners of the list as soon as the command portion is parsed and my >command is rejected because I am not an owner of the list - it appears >to not 'see' the FOR phrase unless it comes first. Can anyone spell out >the precise rules/differences when using FOR as postmast/listowner. The rule is very simple: YOU MUST NEVER PUT THE FOR PHRASE FIRST. There is a command called FOR which is what is executed when you type 'FOR JOE SIGNOFF...' This command is intended (1) for debugging purposes (ie for me) and (2) if you absolutely, positively have to fake a command coming in from another user, for instance if the user claims he is getting message X when he does Y and you don't believe him. If you use the FOR command for any legitimate, non-debugging purpose, there is a better way to do it at best, and in the worst case you're doing something wrong. As the postmaster, you are the implicit owner of all the lists on your machine. If you're not recognized as such, it's a different problem. Eric