I don't know about anyone else, but for me this CONFIRM stuff can get really confusing, in that it has a lot of different applications. You have Subscription= Open,Confirm wherein the person can't subscribe until the confirmation message has been successfully answered. And you can use the keyword Confirm= to set the number of hours the potential subscriber has to answer the confirm message. Then there is the confirm under Validate= , which is totally different. And there is Renew= which sends a confirmation message needing a reply, as with confirmed subscription. Can get really confusing if it isn't clear which CONFIRM someone is talking about. Perhaps need some other terms, or some differentiation in the code (Confirm1 , Confirm2 , etc.)? Dumb idea, maybe, but it does get one into a muddle at times (at least this one). Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L