Personally, I would appreciate Laurence and Eric moving this discussion to private e-mail (or their respective attorneys' offices, whatever...;) rather than continuing on the list. I *promise* not to make any assumptions about the claims, merits or qualities of either....except to notice and applaud their courtesy! Take care all, Sylvie McGee co-administrator - Quaker-L/Quaker-P [log in to unmask] seattle wa