I always recommend NOT getting huge lists-of-lists but use "batch" techniques for searching them. Marty Hoag maintains the template available via e-mail to: [log in to unmask] GET LISTSOF LISTS Abstract the LISTSERV LDBASE script. Keep it handy; edit it as required; and then e-mail to the same listserv. At least that's how I do it and it has served me well over the years. Of course more advanced Web (or gopher) techniques might serve YOU better. -- co-owner INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L [log in to unmask] "The Internet: it's changing" +1 814 863 1843 31 Shields Bldg. -- Penn State Univ -- University Park, PA 16802-1202 USA