I just resubscribed to lstown-l out of irritation due to our Dear Mr. Slaton, read back through the last month of discussion and have some questions: I'm curious whether most owners contact ISPs and postmasters when they get a spam? I do, religiously, but if 100's of others do also, maybe there's some way we could avoid the duplication of effort? Might we cc lstown-l or would that be a self-spam? In any case, I think that encouraging one's listmembers to all write to the ISP, as one listowner suggested, is overkill--unless there are ISPs that don't respond promptly by nuking accounts? Are there? Is there any effort afoot to keep these jerks from getting access? Can ISP's trade lists of the Jeff Slatons that they can screen new subs against? I suppose it's too easy to fake a name when signing up for service. Ed Milstein (@compute.com) mentioned that his company was thinking of taking legal action against Slaton. Are there instances in which this has been done? If so, anybody know what the outcome has been? FWIW: Eric's filter is great; it's never mistakenly nailed anything innocent sent to my list. I'm still not ready to go to semi-moderation or post=subscriber only. Yes, don't post yet another copy of the bloody things. Thanks. -- Phil Sollins (owner ots-L)