Stan, IMHO, fining spammers makes great sense. If you can make the medium too expensive to use, spammers will go away (usually). I got some more info on Mr. Slaton. Apparently he is now getting other people to obtain accounts for him and using aliases as well. One Internet provider is considering legal action against him, but it is small claims court stuff (violating terms of the agreement, etc.). Mr. Slaton is using a P.O. Box and voice mail to hide from people as well. Anita Cohen-Williams; Reference Services; Hayden Library Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287-1006 PHONE: (602) 965-4579 FAX: (602) 965-9169 [log in to unmask] Owner: HISTARCH, SPANBORD, SUB-ARCH