This is in response to two different postings. Forging subscribe/unsubscribe is easy, it's a fact of listowner life. There are a couple of ways you can block forged subscriptions. If you want subscribers to be able to subscribe themselves, put, in your list header: Subscribe= Open,Confirm This will cause LISTSERV to send out a "confirmation" message to which the potential subscriber must respond within a certain period of time. The forger won't get the message so can't respond. Instructions on how to respond are included in the "confirmation" message. The other technique is to put in your list header: Subscribe= By_Owner This sends all subscribe commands to the listowner, who must manually add all subscribers. This is generally used by lists which wish to restrict discussion to a very specific topic among a small group of people with knowledge in the area. Often, the listowner will send a questionaire which must be completed and returned before the person will be added to the list. As to anti-spam, by having items from non-subscribers sent for approval while items from subscribers are posted directly, put in your header: Send= Editor Editor= userid@node,(listname) example: Send= Editor Editor= [log in to unmask],(AUTOCAT) If you have a usenet gateway, and are using 1.8b, you can also have items from a usenet gateway sent for approval with REVIEW. To do this you SET the gateway address REVIEW. This is a regular SET command, like for setting someone NOMAIL, it doesn't go in the header. For example, if your gateway is [log in to unmask] it would be: SET listname REVIEW for [log in to unmask] N.B. The approval technique is different for items from non-subscribers and for REVIEW items, the first using the "forward" technique and the latter using the "ok" technique, so pay attention if you have both. Douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L