Hi, Chris. I think the problem might have been that you untar'd in your LISTSERV directory itself ... this is usually done in a temp directory. But, now that you are where you are, you should just be able to install LISTSERV from scratch and then move over the archives, setup files, etc. You could also restore lsv and the other critical files from tape or whatever you use, and then do a slower, more deliberate upgrade. I'm sure you will be doing this in the future :-), but what I always do is make a copy of LISTSERV's directory tree before I do anything drastic. That way I can get back to where I was if I screw up or something else goes wrong. Also, you don't really need to run the whole "make update," if you're willing to do some manual work. Just unpack everything in the archives to a different directory and compare the dates on files to see what is newer in the new version. Usually it's only a few files. Rename all of your old versions of those files, then copy the new ones into their place. Then, copy lsv.o into the same directory as lsv, rename lsv so you can get it back, and run "make server," which does nothing but make the new lsv. This is all with LISTSERV stopped, of course. Then restart LISTSERV ("go bg") and if it doesn't work right, you can get back to the old one just by renaming all your "old" versions. If it does work right, after a few days you can delete the old ones ... I'll check my mail again tonight. Hope you get out of this OK. It's not so bad :-) Norm -- "War dims hope for peace"