As part of my management technique that involves NOMAIL, when I decide to inhibit mail to a user because of bounces, I set them to NOMAIL NOPOST. This is useful for distinguishing between "vacation"/alt-address types (NOMAIL), and "bouncers" (NOMAIL and NOPOST). Given sufficient time, I can do a: Q listname WITH NOMAIL NOPOST FOR *@* to be followed up by a cleanup via a QUIET DEL. Works for me, your mileage may vary. /Pete Weiss -- Penn State