Eric, As I'm sure you know, something similar to what you mention has been proposed on LSTOWN-L, SPAM-L (thanks for setting that up) and elsewhere. Problem has always been, as I've seen it, lack of legal knowledge, lack of money, where to find really Internet/email/list/ knowledgable lawyers, and just flat getting enough people to cooperate. And, two more big problems, the court system knows nothing about it (proving damage in a civil case could be extremely difficult), and our wonderful congress and state legislatures know even less. Unless the *big* ISPs decide they've had enough and get it started I doubt it will happen. By the way, did you send a copy of your message to SPAM-L? If not, okay to forward it? Douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L