I used to have my one public list set to * Subscription= Open, Confirm and * Default-Options= Review This was effective at preventing both spammage and newbie-junk. However, approving the posts of people set to REVIEW, then setting them NOREVIEW after a post or two was more that I wanted to do (it's a hobby list). So, I thought I could prevent some of the work by getting rid of the REVIEW default and changing to sub-by-owner. That worked and has lessened my work load to a point, but now I am getting many more errors as I have lost CONFIRM. Is it possible to do "Owner, Confirm"? Confirm really helped keep bad addresses (and the truly inept) off the list ... Peter SCAN-L, etc Peter Laws<[log in to unmask]>|"I'd rather get cable TV from the phone company [log in to unmask] |than phone service from the cable company"-unk.