Ok, I'm back. From my acsu.buffalo.edu account I didn't notice any trouble doing anything I tried, though I didn't actually try a db search, but index worked fine. Held one of the lists, approved an item, then freed the list, everything seemed to work as expected. I haven't gotten the posting yet, though, but then I'm usually one of the last, location you know, and I'm set to full headers, so it's a special job. I also went up to the UBVM account we use for errors and didn't notice any trouble, logging on, getting to things, list commands I tried seemed okay. Sent a test message down here, delivered immediately. Only problem was my usual clumsiness on a tn370 connection and doing stupid thing's vis a vis vm/cms (not on it that often and forget). Sorry, probably not much help. Douglas