On Wed, 3 Apr 1996 09:35:19 EST David Avery <[log in to unmask]> said: >And every year my boss says the same thing about listserv: how many >lists? how many subscribers? ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > list sum listserv.dartmouth.edu List membership summary for selected servers known to LISTSERV@SEARN on 3 Apr 1996 18:14:41 Number of lists Membership count Nodeid Public Total Public Total ------ ------ ----- ------ ----- LISTSERV.DARTMOUTH.EDU 39 68 18359 22072 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >how many in the local domain? Here you do have to write your own program. Typically managers will ask how many are in this and that department and it is not a straightforward issue that the product can anticipate easily. >how many postings to each list? how many bounces on each list? Per-list statistics will be available in a future version. Note that they aren't available on VM either, except for the STATS command that reports the total number of postings since the creation of the list, which is only very moderately useful. >how much cpu did it consume? how much disk and ram? THAT is something your operating system should tell you. I mean, you wouldn't ask your users to tell you how much CPU they've consumed so you can bill them, would you? :-) >He can't believe we are buying a product to manage mailing lists and we >can't even guess at the number of subscribers we service and the >frequency of their postings. You have 68 lists totalling 22,072 subscribers. The server keeps global usage statistics, you can retrieve raw numbers using the SHOW CTR command and process them into a report, or you can use a report generator someone else wrote: Total Daily average Postings to mailing lists: 11390 379.66 Recipients: 3064711 102157.03 Digests issued: 941 31.38 Recipients: 321924 10730.80 Indexes issued: 0 0.00 Recipients: 0 0.00 DISTRIBUTE jobs processed: 29241 974.69 Internally generated: 28724 957.46 Outbound DISTRIBUTE jobs: 70148 2338.27 Outbound NJE files: 517 17.23 Outbound files to MAILER: 120119 4003.97 In non-BSMTP format: 69576 2319.19 Recipients: 3034547 101151.57 379.66/68 = 5.58 posting per day on the average. You'll probably ask why LISTSERV doesn't include a quality report generator to convince management to spend more money on the product, and you'll be right. It would be more profitable for L-Soft to have postponed the delivery of the file server functions for non-VM systems, and have spent the time developing a state of the art reporting system giving managers all the metrics they need to send more money our way. If enough people feel this way, I am willing to freeze further development until we have the necessary reporting tools in place. If this is what our customers want, we will do it. Eric