I have ideas for two new lists that I've not found on the list search engines and that I would very much like to participate in, since they're my hobbies. I anticipate that both lists would grow to be quite large, as they are, according to some studies, the number one and number two hobbies among people living in the United States. I strongly suspect that both activities are popular in many places throughout the world. If you would be interested in sponsoring either of these lists or would like more information on the proposals, please e-mail me privately at my address: [log in to unmask] 1. BACKYARD BIRDWATCHING -- There are currently several regional U.S. birding lists, but they are for serious birders only and allow no discussion of birdfeeding, anecdotes, etc. I envision this list as populated by folks who like to feed and watch the birds from their own homes or apartments. Topics might include what one should and should not feed birds, bird identification, anecdotal stories, whether to leave food out for the hummingbirds all winter, how to build birdfeeders and houses and how to clean them, how to prepare bird food, how to keep squirrels away from feeders or to encourage them to come, how to keep cats away, where to situate bird feeders and houses, what to do about baby birds falling from nests, what types of plants to grow for cover and food, etc. I think many people would love to participate in a list like this, as it is one of our two most favorite national hobbies (the other being gardening). I also think it would be educational and would prevent the spread of misinformation that might be detrimental to birds. I would want to invite local chapters of Audubon to this list, as they have good information on correct bird feeding and things not to do. 2. VEGETABLE GARDENING -- There is only one gardening (non-specific) list, and I understand it is very high-volume. It discusses everything. My proposed list would discuss all aspects of vegetable gardening from what to grow, how to preserve it, square foot, French intensive, and other vegetable gardening techniques, varieties of a certain vegetable, growing techniques, fertilizers, etc. It would not discuss the growing of flowers, shrubs, or trees. Many people grow vegetables, and I think there would be strong interest in this list. It would also be very beneficial to gardeners. I sincerely hope that someone will sponsor the establishment of one or both of these lists. I'm sure people throughout the U.S. and possibly the world would appreciate such help. Anyone who would like futher details as to my list proposals is invited to contact me. Sincerely, Sherry Rose in Oregon co-owner veg-pnw [log in to unmask]