The easiest way to accomplish this quiet owner is update your list's keywords in the following form: * OWNER= verbose@owner * OWNER= QUIET: * OWNER= terse@owner The UPPER case syntax are literals. The lower case are to be replaced with real [log in to unmask] For purposes of LISTSERV, only subscribers receive distributions (assuming they aren't set to NOMAIL) regardless of owner status. Make sure that NOTIFY= and ERRORS-TO= don't have explicit userid@node pointing to the terse owner. /Pete Weiss -- Penn State