This has come up a number of times, that people feel a little bit uncomfortable with the term 'owner'. And since the header is always viewable by anyone, it really can stick out a bit. Some of the owners that I talk to in email recently discussed this, and tossed around some words, and found that they prefer the word 'Managers' over any other. And since it is 8 characters long, it can also be used for file names in file lists, e.g. if you have a file that listed the volunteers that manage a list, then that file might be called 'Hockey Managers' for the Hockey list managers. So: could Lsoft allow the word 'Manager' and 'Co-Manager' to be synonyms for the word 'Owner' in the list header? Then the list of owners can start out with the main owner, the Manager, and after the Quiet: line, you can list the Co-Managers. I think it would be clearer to the new users also. Kevin Kevin J. Sinclair San Carlos, California USA Email Address: [log in to unmask]