Nine people out of ten will not remember that the new list B is at the same host as the old list A , subscribed to for years, so the name field is on file and does not have to be repeated. And, then, people like to put in different names on different lists, and the address may have changed, and......... I suggest you continue to tell your people sub listname firstname lastname Those who really know what they're doing will know when they can skip the name field, but for everyone else give the instructions as usual. douglas Douglas Winship Hays County, Texas [log in to unmask] Secondary AUTOCAT Listowner MEDLAB-L