"Eng-Leong \"Jacky\" Foo" <[log in to unmask]> asks: > > I have set my list to "SEND= EDITOR" and this requires > > >If you simply forward it back to the list, using a mail > >command that generates "Resent-" fields (ask your local user support or > consult > >the documentation of your mail program if in doubt), it will be > distributed and > >the explanations you are now reading will be removed automatically. > > I am using Windows 95 - the Windows Messaging mail system and fail to > forward messages with the original sender's name intact when distributed. > > Could some one help me. thanks Then Bill Verity <[log in to unmask]> says: > > An editor would like some control on the From: line. His reader's want > to be able to tell mail is coming from the list. The previous editor > had worked from UNIX and had some tools that posted under a "list" > userid. The "real" From: line was simply the first line of the note > body. [rest deleted] My fingers have become worn asking for this feature (and/or complaining about its non-existence). The standard response goes something like this (not in these words, but this is what it amounts to): a) Use the OK mechanism (never mind that that's doesn't solve the problem) b) If you can't generate "Resent-From:", get a mailer that can c) If your mailer doesn't let you control the "From:" line or if your gateway rewrites it, it's brain-damaged; get one that can. d) You don't really want or need to do this. e) Here's a list of problems with what you want to do. f) It's a problem with the (Internet|Mail Client|RFC *|IETF *|Gateway) && ^(Listserv) Sorry to be harsh, but this appears to be a case of denial by L-Soft (or an attempt to convert everyone to RiceMail, whatever that is--apparently one of the rare breed of mail clients that actually generates these "Resent-" headers in the way that Listserv likes--still wouldn't make it through my [broken, of course] gateway). Majordomo's solution (make entire message to be approved, INCLUDING headers, the body of the resent message) addresses this completely (at least for a MUCH larger class of mailers and systems). (Hmm...Perhaps that's why L-Soft doesn't want to do anything that looks similar. :-) (If Listserv ever implemented this, presumably the "Resent-From:" mechanism would also be retained for compatibility.) Anyway, I'd like to have this message amount to more than a flame-like voicing of frustration, so here is a description of the workaround solution that I have actually implemented (and used for few years, actually): 1. Get an Internet account with a Unix-Shell-type service provider (yes, I got it primarily for this) that permits incoming mail to be filtered by a program of your choice and that doesn't have a gateway or /usr/lib/sendmail program that likes to rewrite "From:" lines. 2. Write a procmail script on this secondary account for mail going to this account that looks for mail coming from my primary account (which I am constantly logged onto but which has the aforementioned problem of not being able to send out mail with original "From:" lines), with special "control" and "password" headers that I *can* insert from my primary account. (Of course, the script would have to handle other mail appropriately too--save or forward it, etc. ...) 3. When such a message is received, the procmail script strips off the headers from my message, substitutes the relevant ones embedded in the body of my message (the original headers) and pipes the rest to "/usr/lib/sendmail -oi". 4. So when I want to resend a message transparently, I send a mail message to this filtering account with these control headers (if you can't insert non-standard headers with the mail client on your primary account, you'll have to make do with encoding this information in the "Subject:" line). In the body of this message is the original message, including original "From:", "Date:" and "Subject:" headers. (Depending on your environment, you can "write" and "read in" the original message to do this, or cut and paste--you have to be in a window that diplays headers and body to do this completely, e.g., Document>View Source in Netscape Mail.) "Yuck," you say? (Or perhaps "Huh?" you say.) But yes, be prepared to go through hoops like this to get around this limitation. Shahrukh Merchant -- Shahrukh Merchant