When I established my list ([log in to unmask]) I set it to require annual subscription renewal. List subscribers just shrunk by about 1/3, as we passed an anniversary of a major recruiting drive. Some people in fact wanted to drop off, but some didn't understand the LISTSERV messages about renewing, and some couldn't get their mailers (e.g., Eudora) to forward the renewal request as specified without adding the quoting flag (">") to each line. So now I'm publicizing the list again, and will probably write to each of the dropouts, inviting them back. So I'm interested in other folks' experience with renewals -- do you require renewal? How long after notification do you allow people to renew before you drop them? Have problems been reported with uncooperative mailers? Why isn't the same architecture used for this as is used more successfully for confirming new subscriptions and commands -- simply *reply* with a magig number/word/phrase in the Subject line. That seems more reliable, easier... Some people said they didn't recognize the name of my list, and the LISTSERV nagging didn't mention any text descriptions of the list. Has anyone tinkered with the renewal messages to make them more meaningful? Does this text neet to be re-tinkered with every new LISTSERV version? -- Gabriel Goldberg, Computers and Publishing, Inc. Voice: (703) 556-9121 7718 Iroquois Court, Falls Church VA 22043-2516 FAX: (703) 556-0906 Host: AOL Pro's Corner Forum (http://cpcug.org/user/gabe) [log in to unmask] Internet SIG list: SUBSCRIBE NETSIG-L fn ln ---> [log in to unmask]