Remember: News is News, and mail is mail -- the fact that they intercommunicate at all is a wonderous thing, let alone that they sing in harmony (most of the time). The paradigms that each presupposes are different -- that doesn't mean things can't (won't) be improved, but only up to some point. SPAM pushes beyond the envelope's edge causing a basic dilemma. Some amount of list-owner (moderator) time can ameliorate this, but I seriously doubt that automation processes can provide total and satisfactory relief to all of good will. -- co-owner: INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L URL:mailto:[log in to unmask] "PSUVM.bitnet RIP 12/31/96"