I manually approved a posting to what is normally a self-moderated list, and got the same message back, asking me (again) to approve it. Listserv is treating my address [log in to unmask] simultaneously as both an "unauthorized to post" address AND the address of one who IS authorized to approve postings. VERY strange. Here are the gory details: First, the message from Listserv informing me that my message (i.e., the one resent by me) has been submitted for approval: =============================================================== Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:16:47 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at MITVMA (1.8b)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Message ("Your message dated Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:13...") To: Shahrukh Merchant <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Your message dated Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:13 -0300 with subject "Milonga, Waltz and other things" has been submitted to the moderator of the TANGO-L list: Shahrukh Merchant <[log in to unmask]>. =============================================================== This already appears explicitly self-contradictory, since Listserv explicitly uses exactly the same address <[log in to unmask]> both to send this message to, and as the address it believes is that of the moderator. OK, so it must be in my list header. I didn't see it, but here it is. As you can see, Editor= includes "[log in to unmask]", and Send= is set to "Editor". =============================================================== * * Discussion of Any Aspect of the Argentine Tango * * Owner= [log in to unmask] (Mary Chen) * Owner= Quiet:,[log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] * Owner= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] * Owner= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] * * Editor= [log in to unmask] * Editor= (TANGO-L) * Editor= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] * Editor= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask] * * List-ID= Tango * List-Address= Listname * Review= Owner * Subscription= Open,Confirm * Send= Editor * Notify= [log in to unmask] * Reply-To= Sender,Respect * Files= Yes * Digest= Yes,G,Daily,03:50,Size(2000) * Ack= No * Validate= Yes * Notebook= No * Stats= Normal,Private * Errors-To= [log in to unmask] * Default-Options= Repro,Shortbsmtp * Auto-Delete= Yes,Semi-Auto,Delay(3),Max(100) * Sizelim= 600 * =============================================================== Finally, here is the message I was asked to "(re-)approve". Note that it already has the proper "Resent-From: [log in to unmask]" header (as I was trying to approve it in the first place). The original sender [log in to unmask] is not subscribed to the list, of course (hence needing my approval). Listserv properly recognizes [log in to unmask] as the new (resending) "sender", since it sent the informational message "Your message ... had been submitted to the moderator ..." to that address, but why didn't it recognize it as a valid one to approve in the first place? The only thing I can see that seems suspicious is that the first "Received:" header line in the "Original Message" below seems improperly split on a period, and doesn't have whitespace in the continuation line, but perhaps that's just the way it was formatted .... [This list (Tango-L) has been in operation for some years, but this is the first time I've manually approved a posting to it, since it is self- moderated. However, I do have another list (ballrm-m) to which I approve postings manually all the time without a problem. Ballrm-m is identically configured to (Tango-L), except that the "Editor= (LISTNAME)" line is omitted, since ballrm-m is intended to be fully moderated.] =============================================================== Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Date: Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:16:47 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at MITVMA (1.8b)" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: TANGO-L: approval required (274C32) To: Shahrukh Merchant <[log in to unmask]> Content-Type: text X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 This message was originally submitted by [log in to unmask] to the TANGO-L list at MITVMA.MIT.EDU. You can approve it using the "OK" mechanism, ignore it, or repost an edited copy. The message will expire automatically and you do not need to do anything if you just want to discard it. Please refer to the list owner's guide if you are not familiar with the "OK" mechanism; these instructions are being kept purposefully short for your convenience in processing large numbers of messages. ------------------------ Original message (237 lines) ------------------------- Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]> Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2b/1. 8b) with BSMTP id 7124; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:16:14 -0500 Received: from europe.std.com by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with TCP; Mon, 09 Dec 96 15:16:11 EST Received: from world.std.com by europe.std.com (8.7.5/BZS-8-1.0) id PAA17299; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:04:59 -0500 (EST) Received: by world.std.com (5.65c/Spike-2.0) id AA14426; Mon, 9 Dec 1996 15:04:58 -0500 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:13 -0300 Resent-Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]> Resent-From: [log in to unmask] From: "Mabel Solis" <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Milonga, Waltz and other things Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 16:52:13 -0300 Message-Id: <"uIEiG2.0.UX3.g37ho"@world> To: [log in to unmask] [Text deleted]