I suspect those lists are either not running LISTSERV(R) :-), or an old version. I run three LISTSERV(R) lists and belong to several others. Both Majordomo and ListProc lists frequently send various commands to subscribers; all of these kinds of goofs end up as LIST-Request messages in my mail. In fact, the other day I wrote a housekeeping message to one of my lists and accidentally used a command in the first line. Even that message was rejected until I reworded the post. Ingrid Shafer [log in to unmask] & [log in to unmask]