Ok, I'll ask this a different way. How does denying source-routing in MAIL FROM: headers IN ANY WAY change whether or not you receive junk e-mail? All I'm asking you to do is be a little bit more picky about the filtering you're doing. Is that such a horrible thing? In message <[log in to unmask]>, Brad Knowles writes: > The positive feedback appears to be coming from folks who don't > really care too much how the underlying system works, they just > want it to work and prevent them from getting buried by junkmail. These sample people would probably also not notice if you started denying mail from, say, all of Compuserve. But you would never do that, would you? I'm reminded of a Prodigy episode. Remember, they were actively filtering messages for "indencent content". Everyone applauded until the day someone decided that the word "breast" was indecent, and suddenly there was no discussion happening in the Forum for supporting sufferrers of Breast Cancer. I think this is a similar situation. The goals are fine, but the implementation is slightly suspect. It only requires a small tweak to fix. Sure, all of us will eventually get around to "fixing" our mailers. But some of us are running commercial software, and it takes time to get new releases from vendors... -- Harald Koch <[log in to unmask]>