>what is the build-date of your LISTSERV? (do a SHOW LICENSE command) Expiration date: None - perpetual license Capacity: Unlimited Product options: HPO Version: 1.8d Serial number: STJOHNS-VM-TESHPO-1T Build date: 7 Apr 1998 I was able to reverse the fields for the "Most recent first | Chronologically" so that Most recent first was the default. I can't seem to find a methodology to change the order of the Sort by: Author|Date|Topic line. I can remove the reference. Though removing Topic still will revert to sorting the page by Topic as the default. Any ideas to change the defulat Sort by: options of Author|Date|Topic to default to Date would be appreciated. I spent quite a while hacking in the WWW Template but can't really deduce how that is set. Randy