> What inadequacies were these --> just out of interest? Well, let's say that you have people subscribing from a web site and entering all sorts of info about where they live, their interests, their purchase habits, whatever. Then you want to send a message to every person aged 25-35 who lives in California and has expressed an interest in gizmos. This just doesn't work well with 1.8c, there are all sorts of approaches that can provide a partial solution, or even a full solution in some cases, but it is not really a good fit. Revnet had a big advantage in this market. Eric