We're in the midst of deploying 1.8c. I took a look at 1.8d's demo web page and am very impressed. I'm proposing we get by on majordomo a while longer and go with 1.8d. We're building our own web interface but will gladly hang up the gloves if 1.8d will be out in the next few months. Any chance of getting a ballpark estimate of when 1.8d will be shipping? Roger Suppona Sandia National Laboratories [log in to unmask]