Vice Sabio wrote: >I have yet to hear a justification for permitting anyone other than >the list owner to access subscription lists in non-closed environments. I can give you one, and I can tell you how to go about setting it up, as I recall having done the last time such a query came up here. My list is set to * Subscription= By Owner * Review= Owner in addition to * Confidential= Yes * Validate= Yes As a result, any command I send to listserv must be accompanied with a listserv password (created with the PW ADD command). Additionally, I do not add subscribers to my list without first "screening" them to make sure they are really going to be appropriate people for my list. This usually involves a give and take of 2 or 3 e-mails to verify that I have the right e-mail address, to verify that there is a 2-way gateway between me and that other address funcitoning properly, and to verify that the potential subscriber is not attempting to spoof somebody else's e-mail address, in addition to verifying the appropriateness of the person joining my list. Now, all of this boils down to the fact that people can not get the list of addresses by themselves. However, by the nature of some of our discussions, it is often helpful for two or more people to communicate amongst each other "off the list" per se, either because they do not wish to go over old turf which is extremely familiar to them but perhaps not to the rest of the list, or because the appropriateness of their discussions are really not for the list anyway. That said, I do sporadically post the list of subscribers to the list itself. For all intents and purposes, because it is a subscribe by owner list and a confidential=yes list and a review by owner list, the only people who are able to view the list of subscribers are the people already subscribed to the list and either have access to the list archives or who see the list posted whenever I post it to the list. Actually, it is probably time I should post another of these to my list. It has been a few months since the last time I did that. Glenn, whose list is set to *Subscription= By Owner Review= Owner Confidential= Yes and who has no worries of spammers as a result