I guess that since I received a notification that my last (orignal and first) message posted the other day, regarding connection refused errors from the X-SUPD job, went out okay that it must actually have been received. What surprises me is that there has been no answer from anyone on the list..... not even a "get lost.... this is the wrong list for that..." . So......... can someone please tell me if they even recieved a copy of the orignal message..... that way I will know if it even hit the list at all.... oh..... and is this list for owners only or owners/administrators..... that way I know if I am wasting my own and everyone elses time here.... thanks in advance (anticipation ... hope... generally just waiting around for some answer) Debra Wilson