Tsk, Nathan, ya really shoulda spotted that Received: field also, which someone else mentioned. I was going to mention it if no one else did. I don't consider that "forged" email, but "spoofed" email. That is, it will fool a lot of people but all the traces are there for those who look. Truely forged mail means you cannot find anything whatsoever indicating that it originated elsewhere than where it purports. Those who have been around for a while may recall that shortly after LSTOWN-L moved from its original site in Indiana to SEARN we had a dustup about this and several people sent items which even Eric could not trace (Natalie Maynor was one, as I recall). The guy who claimed he couldn't be fooled quit the list in a snit. Those are forgeries, the others, like that from Amy, are spoofs, easy to detect and trace. I used to know how to do an untraceable forgery by taping into the port I wanted to use, but it has been a long time and I don't know what sort of security precautions they have these days, so I ain't going to try it. Spoofing is easy and always has been, with the right mail system (unix ELM anyone?). True forgery is something else. Douglas