> when doing a gatewayed list, those who aren't subscribed -- who post > to the usenet side of the gateway -- really, *seriously* don't like > receiving "your message has been submitted to ..." messages from > listserv. Well, Ben wasn't talking about usenet, Maureen. Usenet folk are different, if ya know what I mean. That you have put up with the antics of your usenet crowd all the years you have and can still keep it going is a tribute to you, Maureen. I was listening to Bob's first album the other night, had forgotten how much I like it, it's been years since I last pulled it out. Douglas