thanks From the look of the date stamps it was March 8 when this version was installed, I cant find the source files, and backup indexes dont show the file you named (probably because it was sitting in /tmp and that doesnt get backed up) is there any other way of getting it? lsvadmin ------------------------------------------------------- On 13 Dec 99, at 19:50, Nathan Brindle wrote: It's found in the `uname`.tar.Z file you downloaded for your OS. Since it has to be installed manually 'make install' does not move it out of the scratch directory where you untar the kit. Nathan