On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:13:35 -0700, Dan Lester <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>I'm getting tired of the hassles of renewals, but don't really want to end
>some sort of "housekeeping".  I'd planned on using probes, but am I correct
>that it is only in 1.8d?   I'd thought it was in 1.8c, but can't find it in
>the docs on my bookshelf (yeah, I print'em and bind'em).

Appendix B, Renewal= with Probe option.  Read all about it.

1.8d adds "Passive Probe" option to the Auto-Delete= keyword as a means to
check/verify email a random portion of the list's email addresses, during the
course of regular mailings, i.e. unlike the 'Active Probe' message associated
with Renewal above.  Over a period of time (determined by the setting) the
entire list will be checked.

>I know we should have d, but I'm not the guy who has to install it, and
>he's busier than ever (can we spell PeopleSoft, folks?), and is convinced
>the upgrade will be some major shindig and require vast amounts of his
>time.  Can you give me info to correct him, particularly if you can do so
>soon (as I meet with him in about 16 hours)?  We're talking about an RS6000
>AIX box in case it matters.

Assuming you already have the WWW interface installed for 1.8c the upgrade time
on NT is about 5 minutes.  It's usually a little longer on unix not because it's
any harder, but because every unix person seems to like to exercise their own
creativity, especially with regard to directory paths, etc and it takes a few
minutes to figure out what they did 2 years ago when they installed 1.8c so they
can redo.  If you have never installed the WWW interface plan on several hours
at least to get that tweaked.  Otherwise a 1/2 hour is usually sufficient.  It
is not necessary to install the WWW interface at the same time if you don't
want.

We do strongly recommend that you first obtain and install your 1.8d LAK, onto
your exisiting 1.8c installation and restart LISTSERV and verify that was done
successfully.  1.8d requires a 1.8d LAK now and you don't want to be plagued by
LAK troubles on the startup after the update.  This is the most common error.