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"Peter M. Weiss +1 814 863 1843" <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:12:00 EDT
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Here is a generic bottom_banner boilerplate:
 
>>> BOTTOM_BANNER
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This message was sent via the &LISTNAME mailing list.  Need
help with &LISTNAME? e-mail &[log in to unmask]
For more info, e-mail [log in to unmask] info &LISTNAME
>>> <end>
 
When a user e-mails the listname-REQUEST address, the first
thing they get back is the appended message.  Those who
aren't so frustrated, will read the response.  Nevertheless,
the message that they sent to listname-REQUEST is sent to
the non-quiet owners who can then do what they will.
Usually *I* just do a DEL listname [log in to unmask]
 
--  co-owner:   INFOSYS, TQM-L, CPARK-L, ERAPPA-L, JANITORS, LDBASE-L, et -L
URL:mailto:[log in to unmask]                "I get paid by the millisecond"
 
Return-Path: <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:         Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:05:46 -0400
From:         "L-Soft list server at PSUVM (1.8b)" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:      Your message to [log in to unmask]
To:           Pete Weiss <[log in to unmask]>
X-LSV-ListID: L-xxxxx
 
Thu, 10 Oct 1996 14:05:46
 
Your message  to [log in to unmask] has been  forwarded to the
"list owners" (the people who manage  the L-xxxxx list). If you wanted to
reach a  human being, you used  the correct procedure and  you can ignore
the remainder of this  message. If you were trying to  send a command for
the computer to execute, please read on.
 
The  L-xxxxx list  is managed  by  a LISTSERV  server. LISTSERV  commands
should    always    be   sent    to    the    "LISTSERV"   address,    ie
[log in to unmask] (or  [log in to unmask]). LISTSERV  never tries
to  process  messages sent  to  the  L-xxxxx-Request address;  it  simply
forwards them to a human being, and acknowledges receipt with the present
message.
 
The "listname-Request" convention originated on  the Internet a long time
ago. At  the time, lists were  always managed manually, and  this address
was defined as an alias for the  person(s) in charge of the mailing list.
You would write to the  "listname-Request" address to ask for information
about the list, ask  to be added to the list,  make suggestions about the
contents and policy, etc. Because this  address was always a human being,
people  knew and  expected to  be  talking to  a  human being,  not to  a
computer.  Unfortunately, some  recent  list  management packages  screen
incoming  messages  to  the  "listname-Request" address  and  attempt  to
determine whether they are requests to  join or leave the list. They look
for words such as "subscribe", "add",  "leave", "off", and so on. If they
decide your message is  a request to join or leave  the list, they update
the list automatically;  otherwise, they forward the message  to the list
owners. Naturally, this means that if  you write to the list owners about
someone else's  unsuccessful attempts to  leave the list, you  stand good
chances of  being automatically removed  from the list, whereas  the list
owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this.
There is no  reliable mechanism to contact a human  being for assistance,
and you can never  be sure whether your request will  be interpreted as a
command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV uses two
separate addresses, one for the people in  charge of the list and one for
the computer  that runs it.  This way you  always know what  will happen,
especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
 
In  any case,  if your  message was  a LISTSERV  command, you  should now
resend it to [log in to unmask]  (or [log in to unmask]). The list
owners know that  you have received this message and  may assume that you
will resend the  command on your own. You will  find instructions for the
most common administrative requests below.
 
*********************
* TO LEAVE THE LIST *
*********************
 
Write to  [log in to unmask] (or  [log in to unmask]) and,  in the
text of your message (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF L-xxxxx
 
********************
* TO JOIN THE LIST *
********************
 
Write to  [log in to unmask] (or  [log in to unmask]) and,  in the
text of your message (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE L-xxxxx
 
************************
* FOR MORE INFORMATION *
************************
 
Write to  [log in to unmask] (or  [log in to unmask]) and,  in the
text of  your message  (not the  subject line),  write: "HELP"  or "INFO"
(without the quotes). HELP will give you  a short help message and INFO a
list of the documents you can order.

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