Peter R wrote:

>On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Judith Hopkins wrote:
>
>>    As spamming began to become a nuisance we changed to REVIEW =PRIVATE
>>    but realized that that was not particularly effective as anyone
>>    could subscribe, get the subscription list, and then unsubscribe.
>>    So now we have REVIEW =OWNERS     If anyone can persuade me that
>>    he or she has a valid need for some subscription information I am
>>    glad to provide it to them but I have rarely received such requests.
>
>Can I persuade you to define the list as:
>* Review= Private
>* Default-Options= Conceal
>
>so that you leave the new subscriber protected from prying
>eyes, but leave with them the prerogative and responsibility
>to decide for themselves whether they wish to be a visible
>subscriber (to other subscribers of the list)? This way, you
>get to protect your subscribers, lacking any knowledge of
>their wishes to the contrary, but you relieve yourself on
>forcing them to continue to be "protected" if they do not
>wish to. Everyone wins.

Interesting option, but this makes being a list owner a little bit more
difficult to manage.  I would much rather have a Review= Owner and not
have to deal with doing searches for concealed members (which, again, such
a command could be spoofed) and searches for unconcealed members of my
list.

BTW, if anybody really wanted the list of
subscribers, all they would have to do is spoof the list-owner's e-mail
address (freely available if the list name is known) and subscribe and/or
review through that method.

I would love to be able to give an ok to all commands that I send to
listserv before any of those commands are carried out to foil the spoofers
in that regard.

>Peter R

Glenn