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Rich Greenberg <[log in to unmask]>
Tue, 2 Feb 1999 08:12:04 PST
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Well, I will add one vote to the plain text side.  I use a dinosaur of a
system and a mail reader (mush on a unix shell) and I like them.
Its FAST, I use the keyboard and don't have to chase rodents across
the screen,  and it does what I tell it to do, not what some GUI
programmer decided was the  way they thought it should work.
It wraps lines where I want to, not where the GUI wants to.
And I have a powerful & flexible editor to use (well, its vi but at
least its a "real" editor).

For the benefit of the HTML proponents,  here is what I see in those
messages:

On Feb 1,  6:59pm, "Stephen C. Nill, J.D." wrote:
} Subject: Re: Stopping HTML, and attachments
} --=====================_23914855==_.ALT
} Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
}
}         I'm late to this thread but thought since I have an exactly opposite
} view to the views expressed on this thread, I might as well stick my neck out.
} I absolutely love emails that utilize HTML because they can provide a richness
} to the communication that plain text cannot.
}
}         Pet Weiss did the best job of succinctly summarizing reasons why so
} many
} listowners seem to abhor HTML in emails, so I might was well pick on his
} replies:
}
} Pete Weiss wrote:
}
} >Because:
} >
} >1) some email clients sent simultaneous straight ASCII AND HTMLized text:
} >the recipients certainly don't need to receive both
}
}         But this format allows an email client to read the message, either in
} its living color version (HTML) complete with various fonts, colors and sizes,
} or, if an older client, in its straight text version.
}
} >2) some email clients don't understand HTML
}
}         I don't know the percentage, but it must be small and growing
} smaller by
} the day.  Gad, folks can get Netscape or Explorer for free!
}
}         The question is, do we dumb down everybody else for the sake of a few
} behind-the-curve subscribers?  Or do we move forward with the technology and
} all that it promises?
}
} >3) archives become greatly expanded
}
}         The growth of archives due to HTML is miniscule as compared with the
} ever-expanding disk drive sizes.  I just picked up a 12 Gig hard drive for
} $250.  It would take years and years of archiving just to fill it up even half
} way (okay, I didn't actually do the math so if you want to nail me here, go for
} it).
}
} >4) many folks would sooner not have attachments since they may not be
} >able to process them
}
}         Again, why dumb down the works for the sake of a few who refuse to keep
} up?
}
}         Well, just thought I'd stir the old pot.  Kinda needed the break.  ;-)
}
}
}         Stephen C. Nill, J.D.
}         [log in to unmask]
}
} AMERICAN PHILANTHROPY REVIEW
} 30021 Tomas Street, Suite 300
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}
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}
} --=====================_23914855==_.ALT
} Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
}
} <html>
} <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><tt><font face="Courier New, Courier" size=7 color="#800000">I</font></b></tt>'m
} late to this thread but thought since I have an exactly <i>opposite
} </i>view to the views expressed on this thread, I might as well stick my
} neck out.&nbsp; I absolutely love emails that utilize HTML because they
} can provide a richness to the communication that plain text cannot.&nbsp;
} <br>
} <br>
} <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Pet Weiss
} did the best job of succinctly summarizing reasons why so many listowners
} seem to abhor HTML in emails, so I might was well pick on his
} replies:<br>
} <br>
} Pete Weiss wrote:<br>
} <br>
} <font color="#0000FF"><i>&gt;Because:<br>
} &gt;<br>
} &gt;1) some email clients sent simultaneous straight ASCII AND HTMLized
} text:<br>
} &gt;the recipients certainly don't need to receive both<br>
} <br>
} </font></i><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>But
} this format allows an email client to read the message, either in its
} living color version (HTML) complete with various fonts, colors and
} sizes, or, if an older client, in its straight text version.&nbsp; <br>
} <br>
} <font color="#0000FF"><i>&gt;2) some email clients don't understand
} HTML<br>
} <br>
} </font></i><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>I
} don't know the percentage, but it must be small and growing smaller by
} the day.&nbsp; Gad, folks can get Netscape or Explorer for free!&nbsp;
} <br>
} <br>
} <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>The
} question is, do we dumb down everybody else for the sake of a few
} behind-the-curve subscribers?&nbsp; Or do we move forward with the
} technology and all that it promises?<br>
} <br>
} <font color="#0000FF"><i>&gt;3) archives become greatly expanded<br>
} <br>
} </font></i><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>The
} growth of archives due to HTML is miniscule as compared with the
} ever-expanding disk drive sizes.&nbsp; I just picked up a 12 Gig hard
} drive for $250.&nbsp; It would take years and years of archiving just to
} fill it up even half way (okay, I didn't actually do the math so if you
} want to nail me here, go for it).<br>
} <br>
} <font color="#0000FF">&gt;4) many folks would sooner not have attachments
} since they may not be<br>
} &gt;able to process them<br>
} <br>
} </font><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Again,
} <u>why dumb down the works</u> for the sake of a few who refuse to keep
} up?&nbsp; <br>
} <br>
} <x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Well, just
} thought I'd stir the old pot.&nbsp; Kinda needed the break.&nbsp;
} <font color="#FF0000">;-)<br>
} <br>
} </font><br>
} <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>Stephen
} C. Nill, J.D.</div>
} <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab>[log in to unmask]</div>
} <br>
} <div>AMERICAN PHILANTHROPY REVIEW</div>
} <div>30021 Tomas Street, Suite 300</div>
} <div>Rancho Santa Margarita, CA&nbsp; 92688&nbsp; USA</div>
} <div>Telephone:&nbsp; 949-589-5938</div>
} <div>Facsimile:&nbsp; 949-589-4399</div>
} <div>Editorial Office: [log in to unmask]</div>
} <div>List Editors:&nbsp; [log in to unmask]</div>
} <div>Book Review Editors:&nbsp; [log in to unmask]</div>
} <div>Business Office:&nbsp; [log in to unmask]</div>
} <br>
} <div><a href="http://charitychannel.com/" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://CharityChannel.com</a></div>
} <br>
} <div>For information on our Internet discussion forums, visit </div>
} <div><x-tab>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</x-tab><a href="http://charitychannel.com/Forums" EUDORA=AUTOURL>http://CharityChannel.com/Forums</a></div>
} </html>
}
} --=====================_23914855==_.ALT--
}-- End of excerpt from "Stephen C. Nill, J.D."



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