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Jane Lyle <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:34:04 -0500
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Andrew Bosch wrote:

> Are there any 8-bit characters in the message sent, including soft
> carriage returns? Some systems automatically send base-64 if they detect
> characters that can not be sent as-is via RFC822-compliant messages.

We've never been able to spot any offending characters--but we do often
(always?) get this line in the headers: 

Comments:     RFC822 error: <W> TO field duplicated. Last occurrence was  
              retained.                                                   

> 
> It could also be that one of T-Mobile's Blackberry gateways constantly
> sends base-64, while others do not.
> 
> 
> >>> [log in to unmask] 3/9/2005 2:35:36 PM >>>
> On Wed, 9 Mar 2005, Kevin Parris wrote:
> 
> > Are the problem messages NEW items, or written as replies to other
> > posts?  Are the originals, to which the blackberry replies, from the
> > same origin?  I'm suggesting that perhaps your sometimes-garbled
> results
> > may be hailing from origins not necessarily in the blackberry device
> -
> > just something to think about.
> 
> At first we thought that the problem occurred only when he replied to
> a
> post, but that proved not to be true. Then we thought there was a
> line-wrap problem, but that theory also fell by the wayside. Here,
> courtesy of my co-owner (who has been working on the problem more
> directly
> and has subscribed to the digest to monitor it), is what we know/have
> tried:
> 
> "We already know that ...
> 
>    - It's not something that happens when lines exceed any
>      particular number of characters. Charlie has tried
>      manually wrapping lines at 30 characters.
>    - It's not related to replying to a message. I've seen
>      the problem when he's replied, when he's created a new
>      message and pasted in quoted text, and when he's
>      created a blank new message.
>    - Every message that comes with a warning that there
>      is an error in the headers seems also to be base 64,
>      but I believe there have been some base 64 messages
>      that had no warning about header errors."
> 
> Jane
> 
> > 
> > >>> [log in to unmask] 3/9/2005 3:13:06 PM >>>
> > Yes, but why would one of those messages have looked OK in the
> digest,
> > while the second one--in the same digest, sent by the same
> subscriber
> > from the same Blackberry in the exact same way, and going through
> the
> > same Listserv server to the same recipients' same mail programs--not
> be
> > decoded? 
> > 
> > He is happy to make any adjustments that can be made, but we can't
> > figure out why his messages sometimes come through just fine and at
> > other times are gobbledygook. The same thing has happened with posts
> > from another Blackberry user--who, fortunately, posts much less
> often.
> > I'm guessing that as more people start using Blackberry, this
> problem
> > will get worse. The posts are fine in the archives, but they sure do
> > make a mess of the digests for some subscribers.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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