No-I wasn't offended, because I chose not to be.  If I had been more
informative in my first post, the questions wouldn't have arisen...but
because my intentions were honorable, I didn't think of the possibilities
that some nefarious person might using the list for their own ends. Thank
goodness, the net has guardians such as you to protect it from evil.

This whole thing has gotten totally blown out of proportion. While I
appreciate the support that has been given on my behalf I am perfectly
capable of hitting the delete button on my own....which usually is the best
way to handle such behavior.  However, if needed I am capable of being just
as questioning. For example--If you don't have enough access to the web to
download the manuals for Listserv, how can you be a guardian of the net? Do
we even need such guardians?  I don't think so.

It must be dreary to live in your world.  Not everyone is out to spam the
net. And, I don't think Listserv is forgetting the old ways by providing a
new GUI interface.  They are just catching up to the 20th century.  The
majority of the web-using public prefers a quick, easy interface because
they have better things to do with their time than sit around and figure out
the correct, outdated syntax needed to access some of the more complicated
commands that Listserv requires. It's called good business sense. Not
everyone still lives in a DOS, Lynx-based based world.

So-please don't feel that you need to fight a duel because of me, because I
don't feel my honor was sullied.  I know my intentions were of the highest
caliber, so I didn't mind a few questions.  I hope that this ends the matter
once and for all.

Lisa


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Winship
        Sent:   Friday, September 11, 1998 11:35 PM
        To:     Lisa Coleman
        Cc:     Judith Hopkins; Pat Letendre
        Subject:        RE: help with announce only list

        Do you think I insulted you?  I certainly did not intend to do so.
        I was asking questions at a very basic level.  If you do not think I
        intended insult would you please so inform the white knight who has
        rushed to  your defense?

        If he does not cool it I *am* going to issue a  "public insult" and
there
        will be no mistake about it.  If he wants a duel to satisfy his
outraged
        honor, fine, you are the intermediary, you set it up.

        Douglas

        On Fri, 11 Sep 1998, Lisa Coleman wrote:

        > Nope, we DON'T sell our names.  Out of the 25,000 I sent
yesterday, only 8
        > asked not to receive the last reminder.  Their names were only
going to be
        > used twice anyway, for the reminders about our Prevue First '98
show.
        >
        > Lisa Coleman
        > Online Promotions Coordinator
        > [log in to unmask]
        > http://www.prevue.com
        >
        >       -----Original Message-----
        >       From:   Winship [SMTP:[log in to unmask]]
        >       Sent:   Thursday, September 10, 1998 7:48 PM
        >       To:     Lisa Coleman
        >       Cc:     [log in to unmask]
        >       Subject:        Re: help with announce only list
        >
        >       > The email addresses are from a contest Prevue is running.
People
        >       > voluntarily signed up for this. Review is set to owner and
this
        > will only be
        >       > used twice. One for each part of the Prevue First '98 show
we are
        > airing.
        >
        >       Yes, well, did you you explicity tell them that by entering
the
        > contest
        >       they would be put on a mailing list whether they like it or
not?
        >
        >       And, umm, are you going to sell this list to raise a little
extra
        >       revenue?
        >
        >       Sorry, I'm of the old guard when all commercial use was flat
out
        >       verbotten.
        >
        >       Douglas
        >