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John B Harlan <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:44:03 -0500
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     Has anyone else experienced an increase over the past few
months of folks having difficulty remembering (a) that they've
subscribed to your list and (b) how to unsubscribe properly?
I've noticed a definite upsurge on my lists, and I'm in need of
venting a bit, so I sent the following to one of my lists a few
minutes ago, with the (I hope) reasonably civil flame at the end
for folks who've evidently forgotten they subscribed but can't
bring themselves to admit it  :-)
 
                                                            John
 
 
Date: 23 Jul 1992 05:32:01 -0500
From: John B Harlan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Getting on and off the UN list
Sender: United Nations <[log in to unmask]>
Message-id: <[log in to unmask]>
 
 
     Greetings from your listowner.
 
     I'd like to take a brief moment to chat (read: vent) about
messages like the following, sent as postings to the UN list:
 
| Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:25:21 GMT-0500
| From: [deleted]
| Subject: PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST!!
| Message-id: [deleted]
|
| Please take me off this list.  I have written to the listserv and
| they will not take me off.  I did not subscribe to this list!!
|
| Sorry for interupting, but I keep getting UN mail.
|
| - [deleted]
 
     First, here are some reminders:
 
     o  Messages intended for redistribution to all list subscribers
        must be sent to the list itself, [log in to unmask]
                            ^^^^
     o  Commands regarding subscriptions must be sent to the server,
        [log in to unmask]                           ^^^^^^
 
     o  To subscribe, send the command:
             SUB UN yourfirstname yourlastname
        as the body (*not* the subject) of an e-mail message to the
        server, [log in to unmask]
        ^^^^^^
     o  To temporarily 'turn off' mail from the list (while on
        vacation or whatever), send the command:
             SET UN NOMAIL
        as the body (*not* the subject) of an e-mail message to the
        server, [log in to unmask]
        ^^^^^^
     o  To resume receiving mail from the list, send the command:
             SET UN MAIL
        to the server, [log in to unmask]
               ^^^^^^
     o  To signoff/unsubscribe from the list completely, send the
        command:
             SIGNOFF UN
        or
             UNSUB UN
        to the server, [log in to unmask]
               ^^^^^^
     o  If you have difficulties, contact the listowner by private
        e-mail at [log in to unmask]  If you misplace my
        name or e-mail address, just send the server the command:
             REVIEW UN SHORT
        *Don't* send messages like the above to the list itself,
        except as an absolute last resort (in which case, keep in
        brief and to the point).  Such messages go to everyone on
        the list, of which usually only one (i.e., the listowner)
        can do anything about it.  Such messages are a waste of
        network bandwidth and
 
        [Flame on]
 
        they're annoying.
 
     o  If you forget that you've subscribed to the list, that's
        okay -- we're all human.  But remember that ListServ
        subscriptions can only be initiated by the subscriber or
        the ListServ listowner -- and ListServ listowners don't
        usually make a habit of ADDing folks to their lists unless
        a person requests to be ADDed manually.  Also, bear in
        mind that listowners can (and usually do) receive automatic
        notices from the server when someone joins or leaves their
        list.  Thus we *know* when a subscription has been initiated
        by a subscriber (such as in the case of the message above).
 
        If you believe that your account has been compromised (i.e.,
        someone other than yourself has logged into your account and
        subscribed you to the list :-) please contact your system
        administrator -- while bearing in mind that to ListServ and
        your listowner, it's all the same:  your subscription was
        initiated from your account.
 
        [Flame off]
 
     Thanks for allowing your (usually) friendly listowner to vent!
Have a good day and don't worry, be happy  :-)
 
                                                       John

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