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Fri, 18 Feb 2000 08:05:59 -0500
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Lynda and others,
I sure could use some help.  The ISP is saying that the message is
"stuck"
 in the lsoft queue - lsoft says that the message keeps bouncing back
from the isp: PURPLMTN.com.  The ex-list member says she is being
treated badly, I say HELP !!!!!!!!!

Apparently the whole problem started on 2/2/00 when the following
message arrived, minus the IRWOLF-L footer.  It then kept repeating -
and still is being received by her.  I have deleted the message body,
there is not a strange header, just the same message, still minus the
IRWOLF-L footer.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------first
message----------------------------
Subject: [IW-L] genetic tongue dropsy versus the "just stopped by for
apitty pat"
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:17:31 -0800
From: Chris Drew <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Irish Wolfhound discussion list
<[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
References:
<[log in to unmask]><[log in to unmask]>

 ...
footer missing

thhe same message arrived multiple times, with the same id and sending
date.   as of yesterday it still arrives even though she is off the
list.
Header: from repeating message
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: [IW-L] genetic tongue dropsy versus the "just stopped by for
apitty pat"
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 20:17:31 -0800
From: Chris Drew <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To: Irish Wolfhound discussion list
<[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
References:
<[log in to unmask]><[log in to unmask]>

bill said:
...
footer missing

NOTE: the list member did not send the compete header she received so I
can't verify the date she received it, but she is a nice and truthful
lady so I presume that she really is getting more and more of this same
message, two weeks later.


NOW on to the probe failed
messages-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Up to 18 a day of these messages arrive.  At the bottom I have put a
complete message showing the i/o error messages, the top one are just
the header and the "delivery error report" parts of the message.  I cut
out the lsoft probe failed boilerplate, indicated by ...
1st probe failed
message:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Probe failure for IRWOLF-L
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:12:19 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at Apple
(1.8d)"<[log in to unmask]>
To: Martha Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
...
Fri, 11 Feb 2000 12:12:19

------------------------- Delivery error report
-------------------------
Received: from glacier.purplemtn.com by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for
Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Fri,
11 Feb 2000 12:12:19 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost)
        by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with internal
id
JAB00002;
        Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:58:58 -0700
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 09:58:58 -0700
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[log in to unmask]>
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
        boundary="JAB00002.950288338/glacier.purplemtn.com"
Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--JAB00002.950288338/glacier.purplemtn.com

The original message was received at Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700
from demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[log in to unmask]>

another probe failed
message------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Probe failure for IRWOLF-L
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:41:21 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at Apple (1.8d)"
<[log in to unmask]>
To:

Tue, 8 Feb 2000 16:41:21
...
------------------------- Delivery error report
-------------------------
Received: from glacier.purplemtn.com by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for
Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 8

Feb 2000 16:41:21 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost)
        by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with internal
id
OAA27049;
        Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:22:51 -0700
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 14:22:51 -0700
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[log in to unmask]>
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
        boundary="OAA27049.950044971/glacier.purplemtn.com"
Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--OAA27049.950044971/glacier.purplemtn.com

The original message was received at Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700
from demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[log in to unmask]>

another------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Probe failure for IRWOLF-L
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:21:43 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at Apple (1.8d)"
<[log in to unmask]>
To: Martha Ryan <[log in to unmask]>

Tue, 8 Feb 2000 12:21:43

[log in to unmask]  has just  received  the enclosed
delivery
error as a  result of a probe sent to  your [log in to unmask]
account
...
------------------------- Delivery error report
-------------------------
Received: from glacier.purplemtn.com by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for
Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Tue, 8

Feb 2000 12:21:31 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost)
        by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with internal
id
JAA26297;
        Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:59:01 -0700
Date: Tue, 08 Feb 2000 09:59:01 -0700
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[log in to unmask]>
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
        boundary="JAA26297.950029141/glacier.purplemtn.com"
Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (warning-timeout)

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--JAA26297.950029141/glacier.purplemtn.com

    **********************************************
    **      THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY      **
    **  YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE  **
    **********************************************

The original message was received at Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700
from demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46]

   ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors -----
<[log in to unmask]>

another: This time I included the whole message, note the multiple ISP
error
messages:----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Probe failure for IRWOLF-L
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:11:44 -0500
From: "L-Soft list server at Apple (1.8d)"
<[log in to unmask]>
To: Martha Ryan <[log in to unmask]>

Mon, 14 Feb 2000 15:11:44

[log in to unmask]  has just  received  the enclosed
delivery
error as a  result of a probe sent to  your [log in to unmask]
account
for the  IRWOLF-L list. If  you are reading  this message, it  means
that
your mail system  is successfully delivering mail to  your mailbox,
while
at the same time reporting that an error has occurred (or,
alternatively,
the error  could be  due to a  system problem which  has since  then
been
fixed). At any rate,  LISTSERV has no way to know  that you have
actually
received the  present message,  and is operating  on the  assumption
that
your e-mail address is no longer valid. Typically, LISTSERV will send
you
one or  more additional probe  messages, on  a daily basis,  to
determine
whether the failure persists, and if so you will be removed from the
list
eventually.  Some lists  are  configured  to remove  users  on the
first
failure.

Assuming you have not  been removed from the list yet,  you can stop
this
process by sending the following command to
[log in to unmask]
as soon as possible:

                            CONFIRM IRWOLF-L

This will tell LISTSERV that your account actually does work and that
you
still want to receive mail from the IRWOLF-L list.

While the CONFIRM command will solve your immediate problem, it is only
a
matter  of time  until you  find yourself  in the  same situation
again.
Please take  a look  at the  enclosed error report  and try  to
determine
whether it is a genuine error,  or just an informational message. Bear
in
mind that this error report was  processed by a computer that cannot
tell
"User JAIME24  does not exist" from  "Please note that the  Department
of
Microbiology will be  closed from December 19 to January  2" or
"Attempts
to deliver your message have been unsuccessful for 300 seconds; will
keep
trying for  another 431700 seconds." These  informational messages,
while
possibly useful  to a  human reader, should  not be sent  in answer  to
a
message coming from a mailing list (it  is very easy for the mail
program
to determine  whether a message is  coming from a mailing  list).
Genuine
errors should be reported to  your computer/network support staff as
soon
as possible so that they can be corrected.

------------------------- Delivery error report
-------------------------
Received: from glacier.purplemtn.com by mango.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for
Windows NT v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Mon,
14 Feb 2000 15:11:32 -0500
Received: from localhost (localhost)
        by glacier.purplemtn.com (Build 93 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with internal
id
MAA06005;
        Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:27 -0700
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:27 -0700
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[log in to unmask]>
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
To: <owner-irwolf-l*elkhorn**PURPLEMTN*[log in to unmask]>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status;
        boundary="MAA06005.950558307/glacier.purplemtn.com"
Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message within 5 days
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated (failure)

This is a MIME-encapsulated message

--MAA06005.950558307/glacier.purplemtn.com

The original message was received at Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700
from demo.lsoft.com [209.119.0.46]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<[log in to unmask]>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours
Will keep trying until message is 5 days old
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue
451 <[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
<[log in to unmask]>... I/O error: Invalid argument
Message could not be delivered for 5 days
Message will be deleted from queue

--MAA06005.950558307/glacier.purplemtn.com
Content-Type: message/delivery-status

Reporting-MTA: dns; glacier.purplemtn.com
Arrival-Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2000 10:17:37 -0700

Final-Recipient: RFC822; <[log in to unmask]>
Action: failed
Status: 4.4.7
Remote-MTA: DNS; local
Last-Attempt-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 12:58:27 -0700

--MAA06005.950558307/glacier.purplemtn.com
Content-Type: message/rfc822

--
- bill -

and Deborah,
and the Hounds of Heaven: Fionna, Tulia, Carina (aka "the Monster"), and
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