I was speaking, as an example, of a subscriber who always got most of her
messages, but invariably, one or so a day would be missed.  Although I
informed her, she said the library where she worked and had her account,
could not account for the reason she did not get all her messages.  She
herself could post without any trouble.  Eventually she was deleted by
Listserv.    I could not explain it to her, and neither could her server.
She could access all of the messages on one of the services which picks up
my lists' messages and distributes (Jack Siler's website -
http://Birdingonth.net/birdmail.html/
and various others).  She did not notice the missed messages to begin with.
Of course, there was always access to the archives, but it is just easier to
check the internet services that carry our messages.

About one-third of my subscribers are on nomail and read the messages from
those services where they can read others as well and not be bothered by
getting mail.  And they can still post when desired (if they have complied
with my posting requirements).

Maybe this explains the auto-delete problems which do arise, of course, from
a delivery problem.

Barbara


----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Weiss" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] Daily error monitoring report-- steamrolling AOL?


> Barbara:
>
> How do they effectively participate if they are NOT getting some percent
> of the distributed postings?
>
> If there is a thread with 10 messages on it and they get 8 of those
> messages, how do they respond correctly because they either missed a
> relevant post, or responded in a duplicative fashion?
>
> This  is not a LISTSERV arbitrary delete, something that you can
> configure for anyways via AUTO-DELETE, but an email delivery problem,
> specifically with the customer(s)' ISP(s).
>
> /pete
>
> At 11:10 01/17/2004 Saturday, Barbara Passmore wrote:
>  >Because sometimes they are good participants who post interesting
messages,
>  >who have no part in the problems of their server, who are in a work
>  >situation where they are not permitted internet accounts, and other
reasons.
>  >Those given are enough for me to want to resubscribe some subscribers
>  >deleted arbitrarily by Listserv.  Believe me, Marquis de Sade died long
ago.
>  >:-)
>  >
>  >Barbara Passmore
>  >
>  >----- Original Message -----
>  >From: "Bill Salmon" <[log in to unmask]>
>  >Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 9:21 AM
>  >Subject: Re: [LSTOWN-L] Daily error monitoring report-- steamrolling
AOL?
>  >
>  >
>  >> "BUT why bother resubscribing them until the problem
>  >> is fixed? unless one is both a sadist and masochist?"
>  >>
>  >> you may want to suggest they use a free account like
>  >> mine at yahoo. (NOT hotmail)