At 10:04 PM 1/20/97 EST, you wrote:
>On Mon, 20 Jan 1997 19:44:05 -0700 Dan Lester said:
>>At 09:32 PM 1/20/97 EST, you wrote:
>   If you want to see spam, go to SPAM-L.  This is *NOT* a spam list.  I
>would have thought that that was clear.

I know this is not spam-l.  I've been a member of spam-l since the day it
started.  Still am.

>   Perhaps you will change your mind when the number of spams per day is
>about 5 or  so.  Then, perhaps, you too will  "bitch" about it.  Perhaps
>you are  one of the  lucky few people  who do not  have to deal  with 5+
>spams a day.   I suspect you are  NOT on SPAM-L and  so don't understand
>the extent of the  problem.  Perhaps you would like to  deal with the 37
>spams I got today.  Make that 38.  Just 3 lists worth of spam.

I got bunches of spam today, too, and especially since I'd been out of town
since friday afternoon until noon today.

>>Finally, I wouldn't THINK of hassling Eric about how he runs his list.
>>People on all my lists have also learned not to hassle me about it.  I
>>listen.  Then I remind them of the rules and to chill.  Those who don't
>>like it don't have to sub...and I'm always willing to help folks unsub if
>>they need the help.
>
>   Well, that's nice  that you are willing  to help, as most  of us good
>folks are, but as a member of  this list, you better be damned well sure
>that I *WILL* complain - to Eric or anyone else - just as I would expect
>my subscribers to complain.  While, I too, am firm when need be, I don't

I'm not suggesting that people not complain, except that since I don't
expect to change Eric's way he runs this list, I'm not going to waste time
or bandwidth.

>take the  starting attitude  of my responsibilities  being a  hassle.  I
>wouldn't consider myself  to be a responsible list owner  if my attitude
>was that I couldn't be bothered with making my list the best it can be.

Exactly.  And that is exactly why I won't hassle Eric, or why I won't take
too much telling me how to run my lists on them, either.  As we well know,
there are many styles of listownership...and mine isn't the same as yours
or Eric's, and that is fine.  I always figure someone who doesn't like how
a given list can start his/her own and run it however the hell they want.
As many of us know, that has happened before, and will happen again.  I
don't expect to change your mind, so I'll quit talking about it here.
>
>>In the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king.
>
>   It depends, I would assume, if the eye were open.

Well, I'll ignore the cheap shots at those who don't share your opinion of
what is "right".  I'm convinced that arguing about "how lists should be
run" is as fruitless as discussing Win vs Mac, Unix vs VM, Catholics vs
Protestants, liberals vs conservatives, etc.  So I'll quit here....and ask
all to remember that I'm not trying to tell ANYONE how to run a list.  If
anyone cares, I can tell them what I do....but would never try to convince
others why "my way is the best" or any such nonsense.

cyclops


Dan Lester
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In the kingdom of the blind the one-eyed man is king.