On: Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:45:49PM -0500,J Newton Wrote:

} Why can't LSOFT just look for the fact that the message has passed through
} the list server twice?

Because it would have too many false positives.  Look at the headers
from your post (The one I am answering):

> Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com (cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109])
>         by mail1.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP
>         id 691FC4894D; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:13 -0500 (EST)
> Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMT
> P for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed,
>  28 Mar 2001 13:09:13 -0500
> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM by PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (LISTSERV-TCP/IP
>           release 1.8d) with spool id 90506895 for
>           [log in to unmask]; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 13:09:00 -0500
> Approved-By: [log in to unmask]
> Received: from 209.119.0.7 by PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (SMTPL release 1.0d) with
>           TCP; Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:45:50 -0500
> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM by wnt.dc.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Windows NT
>           v1.1b) with SMTP id <[log in to unmask]>; Wed, 28 Mar 2001
>           12:45:50 -0500

You will see peach receiving it two times.
 
} Now, what is "interesting" is that [log in to unmask] isn't
} (hasn't been) subscribed to the list! Neat huh? But the list server has a
} totally cool feature that allows one to scan for any part of an email
} address or name. So scanning for indesso comes up with
} [log in to unmask] who IS (was) subscribed.
 
I am guessing here, but I assume that the "indesso-" is added in the
internal processing of the receiving mailer,  and wasn't intended to go
back to you.  "INDESSO.COM" may be a phantom domain hosted by the actual
hosting service,  and "indesso-Joko.Nugroho" is generated to make sure it
doesn't conflict with "Joko.Nugroho" at another hosted virtual domain.
 
} This variability would be eliminated if LSOFT list servers would add a
} consistant note as to the email address of the member they are sending the
} message to.

This has been discussed earlier,  and would defeat Listserv's ability to
save on overhead by sending all messages destined for xyz.com in one
transmission.
 
Turn on active probing wor much of what you want.

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