MIKEHOLLOWAY <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>Do you have your list set for self-moderation?  That is,
>Send= Editor[,Hold]
>Editor= userid@host,(listname)

yep.

>I'm currently in the same boat as you, but I'm able to simply ignore all
>American.edu gateway posts.  The only newsgroup posts that get bounced are
>those with the Newsguy.com address.  I'm presuming that authors are getting
>two "your message has been forwarded" notices, but no one's complained.  So

this is the "your message has been rejected" message that people
who aren't subscribed to the mailing list have been getting. they
*are* complaining. (i disabled "your message has been forwarded"
a while back.)

wish i knew what to do about it other than to ask american.edu
to take down the old gateway.

>the only one on my list being inconvenienced by American University's
>ignoring requests is me, and it's a minor inconvenience that I'm willing to
>live with after all the help they've given us over the years.
>

i know what you mean. it's easy enough to just delete the extra
messages. after everything american's done for me, that's not the
problem.

the problem is for people who don't subscribe to the hwy61-l
mailing list, who post to rec.music.dylan. some are *not* happy
and have let me know. in general, the public mood ranges from ...
cranky ... at best, to psychotic, as regards getting "rejection" messages
from a mailing list that they're not subscribed to. :-|

the difference here is basically that i don't gate to the same kind
of newsgroup that you do. not everyone tolerates hwy61-l's existence,
let alone *likes* it. for example, i recently had to demand that the
rec.music.dylan faq maintainer take hwy61-l's info out of the faq,
because of the hatchet job that had been done on it -- i.e. it *wasn't
called hwy61-l anymore* (!).  i don't think that you run into this
kind of problem with your associated newsgroup. at least i *hope*
you don't. :-)

i've posted indicating that i appreciate their patience.
hadn't really understood how widespread the problem was until
yesterday, when it surfaced publicly.

if anyone can help me understand more about the message -
i'd appreciate the help. for example, is it something in the mailtpl
that i can disable? ( i didn't see it, but that doesn't mean it isn't
there ... )

>The continued forwarding of posts doesn't worry me as much as the
>continuing question of admin authority of the bit.listserv.* groups.  That
>really must be transferred.
>

i hope that that problem will be addressed for you. sooner rather than
later.


meanwhile, am getting *no messages* for approval from either newsguy
or american, nor can i re-put my header to buffalo today. anyone
know -- is buffalo down today?


maureen

:-)