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Paul Robinson <[log in to unmask]>
Mon, 15 Feb 1993 05:30:35 -0500
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>does helios.uwc.edu exist? (and more)
>There is a subscriber on my list whose e-mail domain is recorded as
>@helios.uwc.edu.
 
Let's find out:  (Capture buffer from my terminal program)
 
-- (First see if the site is attached to the internet)
 
access% ping helios.uwc.edu
helios.uwc.edu is alive
 
-- (See if accepts logins)
 
access% telnet helios.uwc.edu
Trying 143.235.1.12 ...
Connected to helios.uwc.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
 
 UNIX System V Release 4.0 Version 3.0 (helios)
 
login:
telnet> quit
Connection closed.
 
-- (But maybe the terminal server works; does the mailer?)
 
access% telnet helios.uwc.edu 25
Trying 143.235.1.12 ...
Connected to helios.uwc.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 helios.uwc.edu SMTP
helo access.digex.com
250 helios.uwc.edu
quit
221 helios.uwc.edu Terminating
Connection closed by foreign host.
access%
 
So the system appears to work.
 
>         I've deleted her twice, most recently today.  But almost as soon as
> I deleted her, she resubscribed.  I then tried to write to her to explain
> why I deleted her and to ask her to talk to the computer support people at
> her institution, but my message to her (sent from a system different from
> that of my list) also bounced for similar reasons.
 
Can you simulate the 'death penalty' on her address?  (If more than 10
invalid commands come from an address, listserv will 'terminate with
extreme prejudice' the address until someone else performs a
'resurrection' via the FOR command).   Can you tell listserv to treat her
as an 11-error site?  In the alternative, can you fake some mail from her
address to trick listserv into ignoring her?
 
> First, does anyone know whether helios.uwc.edu does in fact exist (and
> how could I have found that out for myself, preferably from my VAX/VMS
> account, though I do have access to a VM/CMS account and a UNIX account
> if need be)
 
You can try a whois request on NIC.DDN.MIL and ask them.  Alternatively,
if you have telnet, you can try doing what I did; try to telnet or SMTP to
them.
 
> Also, is there a way to
> delete someone so that they can't resubscribe?  I'm not sure I want to do
> that, but I'm frankly tired of getting all of this subscriber's bounced
> mail
 
If you can sign her off then mark her account as having too many errors,
that's one thought.  If you can't, that's a feature Eric needs to add
to Listserv:
 
//some JOB
//INVALIDATE DD REFUSE=*        :)
user@domain
/*
// EOJ
 
Or something...

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