At 06:27 AM 2/17/2005, Elizabeth Mann wrote:
>Here is the header, I tried putting one of the worst ISPs in the filter 
>but that hasn't worked.

anon.penet.fi doesn't exist anymore, and hasn't for at least 5 years.

I would suspect that the bounces are from end addresses that are aliased 
from addresses that are on your list.  but because the address on your list 
isn't identified as bouncing, it is hard to remove.

For instance, I could subscribe to your list as [log in to unmask] 
and that address will forward my mail to [log in to unmask] because of the 
alias file set up at rmc.sierraclub.irg.  if [log in to unmask] goes away, 
you will start getting bounces from the oriez.org address but not see where 
I am subscribed unless you recognize the address similarity.

having the same owner email address above and below the quiet is wasted 
effort.  what were you trying to achieve?

pull your subscriber list. send personal emails, not list emails, and see 
which ones bounce.


>HeartTalk-L, Discussion and Support Group for heart patients.
>  A St. Johns University List
>
>  Errors-to= Owners
>  Digest=yes,same,daily,size(400)
>  Review= Owners
>  Subscription= open, confirm
>  Send= Private
>  Notify= Yes             Reply-to= List,Ignore      Files= Yes
>  Confidential= No        Validate= No               X-Tags= Yes
>  Stats= Normal,Private         Ack= No
>  Subject-Tag= HT-L
>  Default-Options= Repro,SubjectHDR,Nomime,NoConceal,Review
>  Editor= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask]
>  Moderator= [log in to unmask],[log in to unmask]
>  Notebook= Yes,LISTS:[HeartTalk-L],Weekly,Private
>  Mail-via= Distribute
>  Auto-delete= yes,Full-Auto,Delay(4),Max(50)
>  Renewal= 6-Monthly, probe
>  Sizelim= 250
>  Daily-threshold= 100
>  Language= NOHTML
>  .hh on
>  Filter= Also,*@*.webclipping.com,*@anon.penet.fi,rbnwic*@*,
>  Filter= netnews@*,postmast*@*,*daemon*@*,*@lebanon.com,*@YAHOO.CO.KR
>  filter= *@EWATCH.COM,*@cpdmail.com,*@www.2s2i.com,*@chrisdowney.net
>  .hh off
>Owner= [log in to unmask] (Mary Siegel)
>Owner= [log in to unmask] (Elizabeth Mann)
>  .hh on
>Owner= Quiet:
>Owner= [log in to unmask]
>Owner= [log in to unmask]
>Owner= [log in to unmask] (Mary Siegel)
>  .hh off
>
>
>
>
>
>
>At 11:50 AM 2/16/2005 -0500, Stan Horwitz said.
>>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Elizabeth Mann wrote:
>>
>> >We are receiving way too many errors to monitor on our list.  Our list has
>> >under 100 subscribers and is very quiet most of the time, yet we receive
>> >error monitoring for up to 300 bounces a day.  I realize that all or almost
>> >all are from people who aren't subscribed.
>> >
>> >Is there anything I can put in the header to cut down on this so that we
>> >can properly keep track of our subscribers?
>>
>>Its hard to say without seeing what your list's header currently looks
>>like and knowing the typical number of subscribers, but you might look
>>into the Auto-Delete keyword if you're not already using it.
>

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