Senior list owners:
FYI. I take the liberty to forward the message below as it concerns
academic list owners in general. Madame Caroline Nachman, from
Squarenotes.com (a software corporation, whatever), who has been
expelled from FISH-ECOLOGY due to the repeated violation of our Aims
& Rules (announcement guidelines), accuses of corruption and
threatens, in her message, the academic listowner core. Please, see
lines 42-48, etc. in this message. Thank you.
Aldo-Pier Solari/lstownr. FISH-ECOLOGY.
Forwarded message follows:
] Date: Wed, 28 Aug 1996 13:39:00 -0500 (CDT)
] To: "Aldo-Pier Solari" <[log in to unmask]>
] From: caroline nachman <[log in to unmask]>
] Subject: Re: Your removal of me from the FISH-ECOLOGY list
] Cc: <[log in to unmask]>
]
] Dear Mr. Solari,
]
] You are apparently concerned about the signatures of associates of SQN Inc.
] constituting advertising. You should be aware that SQN Inc. or its
] associates have NEVER advertised a product for sale via USENET or mailing
] list notices, or by signatures on notices posted. And we have no intention
] of doing so.
]
] Some of our 2- or 3-line signatures point to URLs where free information or
] free software may be obtained, and some refer to the URL where free movie
] reviews [of sci-fi movies] may be viewed. NONE of our signatures advertise
] any product for sale.
]
] We know there are problems with using academic forums for advertising, and
] we see every day such ads in academic forums, e.g. for seminars [$300,
] please], publications [$30, please], etc. We feel nothing should be
] advertised for sale in an academic forum, because once you start making
] exceptions for those items YOU consider "academic", who draws the line? Is
] a free software program for organizing research for dissertations so clearly
] outside academia, but a paid seminar or pricy textbook is not?
]
] We also see problems with some list-owners and forum moderators allowing in
] such notices for "friends" or benefactors, but excluding others. We feel
] any academic list-owner or forum moderator who is caught with his hand in
] the cookie-jar, so to speak, accepting meals, trips, free books or any item
] of service or product from those who post commercial [product-for-sale]
] notices to his forum should be disciplined by his institution. We will do
] our part to publicize such lapses to the appropriate institutions.
]
] I gather from the rudeness of your last email to me that you have already
] committed to certain friends or associates of yours that you will take this
] action [3-month suspension], and find further discussions useless. Such
] cabals are not proper for any area of academia. At least you should
] disclose such arrangements to your superiors, and tell them why you find it
] necessary to take such actions.
]
] Caroline Nachman <[log in to unmask]>
] || Sci-Fi! Caroline's reviews of all-time-best science fiction movies.
] || Open "http://sqn.com" or email "[log in to unmask]". Enjoy!
....
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