TO THE CC LIST: FindMail is subscribing to every possible email list,
and archiving all messages. They claim "terabyte" capability, and intend
to provide access to their archives... but I'm not sure if that access
will be free or for profit. Read carefully, and contact Scott if you have
any questions. Leave me out of this! The subscriptions in question have
the form (so far) of "[log in to unmask]". Mail to that
address is answered by Scott.
>>>FindMail's archives are going to be the central resource for
>>>public communications on the Internet for the present and the Internet
>>>Archive archives for decades and centuries from now for historians
We'll take the risk, I think. If you want to pursue this further, direct
your inquiries to [log in to unmask], who will need to get official
approval. Refer to his earlier email to you on the subject.
>>>FindMail Communications is subscribing to over 30,000 public mailing
>>>lists in the world. We consider the initial subscription message be
>>>a request to be a subscriber rather than a demand.
You are taking deliberate steps to avoid the SPAM detection in ListServ.
Otherwise you would already be locked out of all such lists. In doing
so, you have implicitly acknowledged that what you are doing breaks
the rules of acceptable behavior.
I'm also copying THIS message to LSoft's list, in the hope that others
will become aware of your intent. Some will like it, some won't.
SRE
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1814 Oak Knoll Drive, Belmont California 94002-1753 (USA)
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:21:09 -0800
Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
From: Scott Hassan <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: FindMail Communications and the Sierra Club
S. R. E. writes:
> Unless you are contacted by individual list owners, you are specifically
> requested NOT to access any lists on the "lists.sierraclub.org" server,
> and to remove from your system any data which you have gathered.
Agreed.
> I think you would find a less hostile response if you asked FIRST,
> instead of subscribing. People feel somewhat invaded when the same
FindMail Communications is subscribing to over 30,000 public mailing
lists in the world. We consider the initial subscription message be
a request to be a subscriber rather than a demand.
> firm subscribes to every list with unknown intentions. We keep our
> own archives, and don't need (or want) you to do it for us.
Okay.
One important thing to note: The Sierra Club is not going to be
represented in FindMail's archives at all if the club takes this
stance. FindMail's archives are going to be the central resource for
public communications on the Internet for the present and the Internet
Archive archives for decades and centuries from now for historians,
researchers, and scholars.
Are these the Sierra Club's intentions?
Sincerely,
Scott Hassan
FindMail Communications
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